how long is forever

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i unknowingly tricked the dr into letting me titrate down so I an get this methadone s**t out of my life. Its not that I mind taking it, it just is too hard having to drive to a far away clinic all the time to get dosed. I'm lucky and only have to go twice a week but even that is hard to keep doing. My clinic will not let anyone get more than 6 take homes a week and thattakes like 2 years. I've been going for 9plus months and have never dropped dirty for anything and only get the take homes I have due to hardship reasons. It just seems like you should be able to get a month supply at a time or just report to a local pharmacy. Its okay to give people 280 80mg oxies plus 120 60mg oxies and all kinds of other opiates every month, including methadone for pain but lord forbid someone that wants off that s**t should be able to have it so easy. Just makes you wonder all the more how much this government wants to keep the population lulled to sleep. Give 'em opiates and more opiates. MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO GET OFF OF THEM. Hell, ibogaine would fix the withdrawals and even possibly the cause of addiction but that is not good because uhmmmmmmm, I can't figure that one out except that somronr really doesn't want s off. How much money do methadone clinics bring in?

[seymourglass]

hey -- couldn't agree with you more on this one.
methadone is not only the biggest sham on the dope scene, but it is absolutely one of the most lucrative means of stigmatizing a medically legitimate group of victims.

... were it possible, i'd like to smack the jackass who synthesized the stuff.

[eltutt]

I have been on methadone foe 10 years I had a 30 pack and 10 days ago I went nuts and turned it in.  I work 50 miles from my clinic and would be late everytime they wanted a session or a pee test or a box check... couldn't do that stuff on a saturday or a sunday hell no, people might actually succeed that way.  i am on a fifteen day rapid detox today is the first day I feel a little crazy. weepy and achy.  I detoxed down to 50 from 145 in the last year or so and today I was dosed 22 mg I am freaking out but I also know that i just cant do the clinic anymore.  do not feel like using heroin 
just really afraid of what is yet to come. if we do not take this into control in our way they will always control us. I have been locked up and had to kick completely cold so I really think I can do this with a little support and an atta girl every now and then , I am honestly scared to death.  I have had  a crutch for the last 10 years and I am my own worst enemy. I just cannot be there puppet anymore id rather crap my guts out and throw up for a few days than be a slave to the box anymore.

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HOPE YOU ARE ABLE TO GET THIS JUNK OUT OF YOUR SYSTEM. I WILL BE SO HAPPY WHEN I AM DONE. I OFTEN WISH I WOULD HAVE WENT COLD TURKEY INSTEAD OF METHADONE. HAD I KNOWN THEN WHAT I KNOW NOW I WOULD HAVE. ONE SIDE AFFECT THEY DON'T TELL ABOUT. ME AND EVERYONE I KNOW ON THIS STUFF ARE LOSING TEETH. I STILL GO BUT MAYBE YOU HAVE INSPIRED ME TO STOP

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I have been able to drop my dose down to 65 mg without notice. My counselor found out I was going down and I don't know if she is going to get it stopped or what. I know she isn't happy about it but so what. I know what I want and this counseling crap isn't helping me any. I realize it's because I'm not letting it but I am comfortable with myself and all my little issues so I'm not motivated to change. I am still clean after 14 months on methadone and to be honest although I'm not experiencing any withdrawals, mentally it is a challenge to keep going down. My head tells me to go back up and I actually fight myself when it's time to drop 5mg again but I do it anyway because I want off this crap. I so wish I had just went through the withdrawals. Like I said, it;s been 14 months on methadone and had I just did the withdrawal thing that would have been long done but even though this is prescribed and all that, it's still an opiate and a drug and it just makes me as well as others functioning addicts. I would not suggest methadone treatment to anyone. If you are thinking about that route or suboxone, do yourself a favor and research first. Visit some of the forums that deal with those subjects specifically and see what people who have done it or are doing it have to say. It may change your mind.

[forme]

Keep up with what you are doing.the doctors/counselor should be glad you want to taper down instead of taking more and more.I have read that you will have some withdrawal from taking the methadone aswell.If she does cut you off than that may be a good thing.You are strong and you know that you can beat this.The mental part is hard to deal with but we are strong and cant listen to the cravings we get.Keep up the taper,you know its time to get this behind you so you can live a normal life again.
                                                     God bless you,
                                                               Forme

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ok, went to clinic today and had my bi-weekly counselor meeting. It's been a year and a half since I've been going to the clinic and have never dropped dirty for anything other than my initial intake visit. I go to the clinic twice a week. I drive an hour to get there for maybe 10 minutes or so then an hour back, I asked today about coming only once a week and was denied saying they want more time before I can come once a week, What crap! There are places that let you get a month at a time for this long clean. I am so tired of going and being dependent on this crap anyway so I am resuming my taper but I must confess that I have some fears about tapering cause I have heard the horrifying stories on how it will most likely be. Do I wish I had just went cold turkey instead of doing the methadone treatment. Its not gonna be easy to do this but hopefully people will help push me and encourage me so that I will overcome the fears.

[sorryone]

Target
  Good luck...do what you
think is best for you...not what is best by the book..

[edarrin]

Are you in the U.S? Or Canada? Perhaps Oz?


My friend has 6 carries a week if he stays clean. He's been about 8 years. They should be happy you are motivated but likely are 'pissed' because you didn't tell them. To them that makes you 'untrustworthy'. I know it's all bulls**t.

This is in Canada by the way. I think it is marginally easier going here dependent on who you are dealing with. However it is free. Don't think it's the same for the U.S.. You do pay the dispensing fee though which can be as high as $ 12/day dependent on the pharmacy and your personal situation. If on social assistance it is $2.00


Forever is a really long time. No need to think about that. One day at a time. Sounds like that's what you have been doing. Likely would have went  better if you were straight with them. They have licenses to protect as well don't forget. They're not going to play any 'risks'. Know what I mean.

I would definitely consider buprenorphine. Especially if they set you adrift. In 3 days you  will be ready. I think that might be long enough from 65mg? I could be wrong on that. I know they usually recommend you go down o 30mg but under those circumstances I think I  would go for it if I  was able. Maybe wait 4=5 days if you can to be safe. I would definitely seek a doctors advice on that one.


Best wishes. I really believe that when a person is truly ready it isn't as bad as you imagin. You need to be carefull with 'done though.

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They aren't mad about that. I am in the US also. I am down to 45mg now and want to go down more but the fear of the withdrawals maybe or the brainwashing they do telling you this is a lifelong thing with methadone (job security), is pretty powerful.I guess when it's time I will do more. I really can't afford the suboxone so buprenorphine is out of the equation unfortunately unless I want to buy it off the streets and honestly I don't as that seems to be the same thing as buying drugs. I was thinking about finding a Dr. that will prescribe me methadone in pill form and then titrating from them. I wonder if that's easier to do?